We are expecting b/g twins at the end of April (so soon!!! and I'm freaking out!), and are mostly decided on our son's name, which will be August nn Gus. My husbands last name is Oliver, and that will most likely be the twins last name, although we are still thinking about a hyphenated last name (but that is another story!). My name is Beatrice nn Bea (I've never been called Beatrice in my life), so any names starting with b are out. My husband is Jeff, and absolutely HATED being Jeff O. all the time in school. That is why we want both of our children to have traditional yet uncommon names, with easy nicknames to fall back on. August was the perfect choice for us, and we are in love with the nickname Gus, but hate Augie (this is really a very minor issue for us). His middle name will be Rhett, after my father, Everett, and my husbands father, Rex. Gus Rhett does not sound so good, but I don't think we will ever call him that, it will mostly be August Rhett, which is fabulous.
Girls names is where we are stuck. The name we absolutely love and cannot let go is Scout. While it sounds adorable to have twins called Gus and Scout, we hate it with August, and it breaks our whole "nickname" criteria. On the other hand, she wouldn't even need a nickname because she would probably be the only Scout in class. I already think of Scout as being "MY baby", so letting it go is not an option. My main question is, what are good, old fashioned yet unique and girly names that come to the nickname Scout? We are really STUMPED!!
We did think of Seraphina, and we really like it, but I cannot get Scout from Seraphina. Another option would be to have her first name and middle name both start with s, to maybe get Scout from the alliteration?? Any help is welcomed! If we don't do the "double s thing", we think we would like to use the middle name Vera after both her grandmothers, Vanessa, and Mira. But then again, Seraphina Vera doesn't sound good either.
Here is a list of names, girls, that we cannnot use for various reasons;
Samantha (husbands sister), Vivienne (my niece [my side of the family]), Mara (my other niece [husbands side of the family] ), Jane (my best friend), Elena (family name that has been passed down) (which we loved, but too common in my family (ie. my sister and grandmother), Sophia (too popular), Fiona (Jeff's LONGTIME former girlfriend and he refuses to use it), Sarah (too mainstream), Ella (my best friends daughter)
These are some family middle name options that start with S:
South (AMAZING! but too masculine with nn Scout)
Sterling (for a girl??)
Scottson (sounds like Scout, but hate it)
Slone (maybe Sloane?)
Other names we just loved;
Genevieve nn Eve
Gwendolyn nn Gwen
However, in both mine and my husbands minds, our daughter is Scout (or nn is Scout). So our main questions are, is it weird with August? Too masculine (we can't really see it on a grown woman)? Not a proper name? What is YOUR opinion about Scout??
Also, we will probably have more children in the future (no more than one more though).
Thank you so so much, I am literally TEARING my hair out!
Just thought I'd let you know that I was looking through names on our family tree for inspiration, and came across Esther. It is my grandmothers middle name, yet I had skipped over it before. While I do not like Esther, I remembered my grandmother telling me that her mother called her Essie/Essa when she was little. I LOVE LOVE LOVE Essa. I've never heard it before, and am not even sure if it is a known name, I know Asa and Esa are boys names. But It would be a great way to honor my beloved grandmother, who passed away a few years ago. My husband's grandmother was Catherine, and I think that Essa Cate nn Scout is adorable (and a great way to remember two of her great grandmothers). So I was just wondering what you knew about the name Essa, and whether you think that we could get "Scout" out of it (my thinking was that it sounded like S. Cate which sounded a bit like Scout). I think August Rhett and Essa Cate are amazing together.
So now it is between,
Seraphina Vera (sounds funny) nn Scout
Seraphina South (???) nn Scout
Essa Cate nn Scout
and any other suggestions you might have about better names to get nn Scout, something starting with SC, maybe?
I have found the "my baby" test very helpful for narrowing down possibilities from a list of finalists ("I love Marigold so much---but does it sound like 'my baby'?"), or for closing in on our own style ("We love both Eloise and Emerson---but which one sounds like 'our baby'?"). But many, many names will pass the "my baby" test and then be unusable for other reasons: a clash with a sibling's name or with the surname; an unbreakable association; the other parent hating the name.
In your case, the problem is that the name you like for a daughter doesn't go with the name you've chosen for your son, and it also doesn't meet your preference for a traditional name with an easy nickname. So those are the two places I'd start, if I were you: Is your preference for a traditional name with an easy nickname more important to you than using the name Scout, or is using the name Scout more important than that preference? Is the boy name you've chosen more important to you than the name Scout, or can the boy name be changed?
You could for example choose to name him Gus instead of August (since you like Scout with Gus and only hate it with August; this would also eliminate Augie), and change the middle name. Gus Everett after your father, perhaps, if your husband's side of the family will already be honored by the surname. Gus Everett and Scout Mira/Vanessa (whichever one is your mother's name).
Or you could name him Everett Rex and call him Rhett. Rhett and Scout.
If the boy name is set and you don't want to bend on the traditional/nickname idea, I think you will find me unhelpfully conservative about forcefully combining a nickname and name that don't traditionally go together. Betsy for Elizabeth and Jim for James may seem just as unconnected, but they came about organically and are recognized traditionally, in a way that Scout for Seraphina didn't and isn't. Yes, you could name her Scarlet, or Schuyler, or Essa Cate which sounds kind of like S. Cate which looks a little like Scout---but neither you nor anyone else is going to think of those as an easy, natural nickname for a traditional name. Meanwhile, you're dramatically restricting your choices, and even considering names you only like instead of using one of the ones you love.
I think there are three better options:
1. Give her the middle name Scout, and then use that as her nickname. The middle name slot is the perfect place for a name you don't want to use as an actual legal first name. And this means you can choose a name you love as the first name, instead of choosing any name that might sound like it could conceivably lead to Scout. It also coordinates wonderfully with Rhett. August Rhett and _____ Scout.
2. Name her Jean Louise, Scout's actual name in To Kill a Mockingbird. This has charming literary appeal, plus Jean Louise is adorable and traditional. You could use first name Jean and middle name Louise, but I find it even more appealing to think of Jean Louise as the first name, with one of your particularly excellent family name options in the middle name slot. August Rhett and Jean Louise Sterling. August Rhett and Jean Louise Scottson. August Rhett and Jean Louise South.
3. Give her one of the names you love, and call her Scout. Many nicknames have nothing to do with a person's actual name, connecting instead to the person's appearance, profession, talents, early childhood personality/antics, fetal shape/size, or to something no one can remember anymore. There's no reason you can't name her anything you like, and then call her Scout. August Rhett and Gwendolyn Sterling ("Scout"). (If you don't mind the initials G.O.) "This is August and Gwendolyn; we call them Gus and Scout."
I think "We started calling her Scout before she was even born, and the nickname just stuck!" is an easier and more comfortable explanation than "See how 'Essa' sounds kind of like 'S.'? And then the middle name is Cate, which sounds a little like Cout! So then it's S.-cout, see? Scout!" or "Seraphina starts with S, and so does Scout."
I haven't heard of the name Essa before, but I'd think it would fit in fine with all the girls named Emma and Ella, and I agree that Essa Cate sounds good with August Rhett. As an occasional early-childhood nickname of your grandmother's middle name, the honor-name component would be significantly reduced--but if it makes you think of her, and if you love the name with or without that connection, I think it could work. I would, however, think of it as Option #3 (giving her a name you love and calling her Scout anyway).
Name update! Bea writes:
Hi Swistle! I am happy to announce that our twins were born on april 14, and their names, which we love, have been decided on, thanks to you!
All of your and your readers suggestions were EXTREMELY helpful, and we finally narrowed our choices down to
with Essa Catherine, Scarlett Vera and Genevieve Cate (a name we realized we absolutely loved) as our final contenders.
When our beautiful healthy twins arrived April 14, 10 days early, we took those three names into the delivery room. When we met our daughter and looked at he she glared right back at us, and we said definitly NOT a sweet Essa! She was spunky a Genevieve!
We ended on going with the hyphenated last name, and we are overjoyed to introduce the T_____- Oliver twins;
August Everett "Gus"
Genevieve Scarlett "Scout"
(While their names may be long it doesn't bother us at all:) We ended up changing Rhett, due to the fact that we LOVED Scarlett, the the Gone With The Wind Connection was too much. My father is OVERJOYED at his namesake:) )
If we have another daughter, we will DEFINITELY be using Essa Catherine!
Thanks for everything!!!